Science vs. Faith

January 22, 2008 at 5:00 pm (Christ and the Bible, Faith, God, Jesus, Life)

I received this in an email this morning. I don’t know who the original write was so am not able to give credit where credit is due, but it’s does make a good point. Enjoy 

“Let me explain the problem science has with Jesus Christ.” The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

“You’re a Christian, aren’t you, son?”

“Yes sir,” the student says.

“So you believe in God?”

“Absolutely.”

“Is God good?”

“Sure! God’s good.”

“Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?”

“Yes.”

“Are you good or evil?”

“The Bible says I’m evil.”

The professor grins knowingly. “Aha! The Bible!” He considers for a moment.

“Here’s one for you. Let’s say there’s a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?”

“Yes sir, I would.”

“So you’re good…!”

“I wouldn’t say that.”

“But why not say that? You’d help a sick and maimed person if you could.

Most of us would if we could. But God doesn’t.”

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. “He doesn’t, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?”

The student remains silent.

“No, you can’t, can you?” the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.

“Let’s start again, young fella Is God good?”

“Er…yes,” the student says.

“Is Satan good?”

The student doesn’t hesitate on this one. “No.”

“Then where does Satan come from?”

The student : “From…God…”

“That’s right. God made Satan, didn’t he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?”

“Yes, sir.”

“Evil’s everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything, correct?”

“Yes.”

“So who created evil?” The professor continued, “If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.”

Without allowing the student to answer, the professor continues: “Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?”

The student: “Yes.”

“So who created them?”

The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question.

“Who created them? There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized.

“Tell me,” he continues onto another student. “Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?”

The student’s voice is confident: “Yes, professor, I do.”

The old man stops pacing. “Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?”

“No sir. I’ve never seen Him”

“Then tell us if you’ve ever heard your Jesus?”

“No, sir, I have not.”

“Have you ever actually felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?”

“No, sir, I’m afraid I haven’t.”

“Yet you still believe in him?”

“Yes.”

“According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?”

“Nothing,” the student replies. “I only have my faith.”

“Yes, faith,” the professor repeats. “And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith.”

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of his own. “Professor, is there such thing as heat?”

“Yes,” the professor replies. “There’s heat.”

“And is there such a thing as cold?”

“Yes, son, there’s cold too.”

“No sir, there isn’t.”

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.

“You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don’t have anything called ‘cold’. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero

(-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.”

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

“What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?”

“Yes,” the professor replies without hesitation. “What is night if it isn’t darkness?”

“You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it’s called darkness, isn’t it? That’s the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?”

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. “So what point are you making, young man?”

“Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.”

The professor’s face cannot hide his surprise this time. “Flawed? Can you explain how?”

“You are working on the premise of duality,” the student explains. “You argue that there is life and then there’s death; a good God and a bad God.

You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.”

“Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?”

“If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do”

“Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?”

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

“Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?”

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.

“To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.”

The student looks around the room. “Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor’s brain?” The class breaks out into laughter.

“Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor’s brain, felt the professor’s brain, touched or smelled the professor’s brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir. So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?”

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. “I guess you’ll have to take them on faith.”

“Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,”

the student continues. “Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?”

Now uncertain, the professor responds, “Of course, there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man’s inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.”

To this the student replied, “Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God.

God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God’s love present in his heart. It’s like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.”

The professor sat down.

1 Peter 1:4

“Because Jesus was raised from the dead, we’ve been given brand-new life and have everything to live for, including a future in heaven- and that future starts now!”

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  1. Seeth Datruth said,

    Einstein was not only NOT a Christian, he was a secular Jew who HATED being considered religious. These words can in NO WAY be attributed to Einstein. Just more lies to propigate an ancient susperstition.

    Enjoy something factual now … be sure to email THIS to all your friends …

    If you believe the Bibe, it commands you to: “Always be ready to answer any man concerning your faith.” 1PE 3:15. Not to do so is to directly disobey your Lord.

    If these are not the words of man, but the word of God – if they were divinely inspired, why are there multiple and conflicting versions of the most critical stories that serve as the foundation of your faith? (All references were taken from the same translation.)

    These examples may seem like split hairs, but they are not; they go to the heart of divine revelation which you would agree is flawless correct? Then before and after, one or three, here or there – are all critical distinctions that are simply not consistent with the idea that the “Word of God’ is inerrant. Yet if God is omniscient, omnipresent and all powerful, why is his word – his very testament – riddled with errors?

    “Always be ready to answer any man concerning your faith.” Don’t close your eyes to these truths written in your bible – as the basis of your faith. Open your eyes – the truth will set you free!

    MT 1:16 Jacob was Joseph’s father.
    LK 3:23 Heli was Joseph’s father.
    (Only one person can father one child.)

    MT 1:17 There were twenty-eight generations from David to Jesus.
    LK 3:23-38 There were forty-three.
    (A 15 generation discrepancy?)

    MT 1:18-21 The Annunciation occurred after Mary had conceived Jesus.
    LK 1:26-31 It occurred before conception.
    (Opp’s)

    MT 4:1-11, MK 1:12-13 Immediately following his Baptism, Jesus spent forty days in the wilderness resisting temptation by the Devil.
    JN 2:1-11 Three days after the Baptism, Jesus was at the wedding in Cana.
    (Did he slip away and take in a wedding unnoticed by the Devil?)

    MT 5:1 – 7:29 Jesus delivers his most noteworthy sermon while on the mount.
    LK 6:17-49 Jesus delivers his most noteworthy sermon while on the plain.
    (Note: No such sermons are mentioned in either MK or JN and Paul seems totally unfamiliar with either the sermon on the mount or the sermon on the plain.)

    MT 5:16 Good works should be seen.
    MT 6:1-4 They should be kept secret.
    (Uh, ok.)

    MT 5:32 Divorce, except on the grounds of unchastity, is wrong.
    MK 10:11-12 Divorce on any grounds is wrong.

    MT 5:43-44, MT 22:39 Love your enemies. Love your neighbor as yourself.
    MT 10:5 Go nowhere among the Gentiles nor enter a Samaritan town.

    MT 7:21 Not everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
    AC 2:21, RO 10:13 Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
    (Sure, why not.)

    MT 7:21, LK 10:36-37, RO 2:6, 13, JA 2:24 We are justified by works, not by faith.
    JN 3:16, RO 3:20-26, EP 2:8-9, GA 2:16 We are justified by faith, not by works.

    MT 8:5-12 The centurion himself approaches Jesus to ask to heal his servant.
    LK 7:2-10 The centurion sends elders to do the asking.
    (It can’t be both; did God just slip up here while giving divine dictation?)

    MT 9:18 The ruler’s daughter was already dead when Jesus raised her.
    LK 8:42 She was dying, but not dead.
    (It can’t be both; again, did God just slip up here while giving divine dictation?)

    MT 12:39, MK 8:12, LK 11:29 Jesus says that he will give no “sign.”
    JN 3:2, 20:30, AC 2:22 Jesus proceeds to give many such “signs.”

    MT 5:37, 15:19, MK 7:22, JN 8:14, 44, 14:6, 18:37 Jesus says that you should answer a plain “yes” or “no,” that his purpose is to bear witness to the truth, and that his testimony is true. He equates lying with evil.
    JN 7:2-10 Jesus tells his brothers that he is not going to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Tabernacles, then later goes secretly by himself. (Note: The words “not yet” were added to some versions at JN 7:8 in order to alleviate this problem. The context at JN 7:10 makes the deception clear, however.)

    MT 20:20-21 The mother of James and John asks Jesus a favor for her sons.
    MK 10:35-37 They ask for themselves.
    (Only one of these can be correct – only one.)

    MT 20:23, MK 10:40 Jesus responds that it is not his to give.
    MT 28:18, JN 3:35 All authority has been given to Jesus.

    MT 20:29-34 Jesus heals two blind men on the way to Jericho.
    MK 10:46-52 He heals one blind man.
    (New math?)

    MT 21:2-6, MK 11:2-7, LK 19:30-35 The disciples follow Jesus instructions and bring him the animal (or animals, in the case of MT).
    JN 12:14 Jesus finds the animal himself.

    MT 21:7 Jesus rides two animals during his triumphal entry.
    MK 11:7, LK 19:35, JN 12:14 Only one animal is involved.

    MT 21:12-13 The cleansing of the temple occurs at the end of Jesus’ ministry.
    JN 2:13-16 It occurs near the beginning of his ministry.
    (Beginning or end? It can’t be both.)

    MT 25:34 Heaven was prepared before the Ascension of Jesus.
    JN 14:2-3 It was prepared after the Ascension of Jesus.
    (Are not before and after are quite substantial distinctions?)

    MT 26:6-13, MK 14:3 The anointing of Jesus takes place in Bethany at the house of Simon the leper.
    LK 7:36-38 It takes place at the house of a Pharisee in Galilee.
    (Unless a Pharisee was rooming w/ a Simon the leper, there is a clear cut contradiction.)

    MT 26:7, MK 14:3 The oil is poured on Jesus’ head.
    LK 7:38, JN 12:3 On his feet.
    (Are not head and feet quite substantial distinctions?)

    MT 26:14-25, MK 14:10-11, LK 22:3-23 Judas made his bargain with the chief priests before the meal.
    JN 13:21-30 After the meal.
    (Once again; are not before and after are quite substantial distinctions?)

    MT 26:20-29, MK 14:17-28, JN 13:21-30 Jesus forecasts his betrayal prior to the communion portion of the supper.
    LK 22:14-23 After the communion portion.
    (Once again; either before or after … it cannot be both!)

    MT 26:34, LK 22:34, JN 13:38 Peter was to deny Jesus before the cock crowed.
    MK 14:30 Before the cock crowed twice.
    MK 14:66-72 The cock crows after both the first and second denials.
    (Note: These discrepancies have been “translated out” in some Bible versions.)

    MT 26:40-45, MK 14:37-41 The disciples fall asleep three times.
    LK 22:45 One time.

    MT 26:49-50, MK 14:44-46 Jesus is betrayed by Judas with a kiss, then seized.
    LK 22:47-48 Jesus anticipates Judas’ kiss. No actual kiss is mentioned.
    JN 18:2-9 Jesus voluntarily steps forward to identify himself making it completely unnecessary for Judas to point him out. No kiss is mentioned.

    MT 26:51, MK 14:47, JN 18:10 The ear of a slave is cut off and left that way.
    LK 22:50-51 The severed ear is miraculously healed by Jesus.

    MT 26:52 Dispose of swords. All who take the sword will perish by it.
    LK 22:36-38 Buy swords.

    MT 26:18-20, 57-68, 27:1-2, MK 14:16-18, 53-72, 15:1 Jesus’ initial hearing was at night on Passover. In the morning he was taken to Pilate.
    LK 22:13-15, 54-66 The initial hearing took place in the morning on Passover.
    JN 18:28, 19:14 It took place the day before Passover, on the Day of Preparation.
    (Passover is a major Jewish observance, you’d think God would get it right.)

    MT 26:59-66, MK 14:55-64 Jesus was tried by the entire Sanhedrin (the chief priests and the whole council).
    LK 22:66-71 There was no trial but merely an inquiry held by the Sanhedrin.
    JN 18:13-24 There was no appearance before the Sanhedrin, only the private hearings before Annas and then Caiphas.

    MT 27:3-7 The chief priests bought the field.
    AC 1:16-19 Judas bought the field.
    (Perhaps they were tenants in common?)

    MT 27:5 Judas hanged himself.
    AC 1:18 He fell headlong, burst open, and his bowels gushed out.
    (Opp’s.)

    MT 27:11-14 Jesus answers not a single charge at his hearing before Pilate.
    JN 18:33-37 Jesus answers all charges at his hearing before Pilate.
    (Opp’s.)

    MT 27:32, MK 15:21, LK 23:26 Simon of Cyrene carries Jesus’ cross.
    JN 19:17 Jesus carries his own cross with no help from anyone.
    (Opp’s.)

    MT 27:37 The inscription on the cross read: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”
    MK 15:26 “The King of the Jews.”
    LK 23:38 “This is the King of the Jews.”
    JN 19:19 “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”
    (4 signs on the cross?)

    MT 27:44 Both of those who are crucified with Jesus taunt him.
    LK 23:39-42 Only one taunts Jesus, and he is rebuked by the other for doing so.

    MT 27:46 Jesus asks God, the Father, why he has been forsaken.
    JN 10:30 Jesus says that he and the Father are one.

    MT 27:48, LK 23:36, JN 19:29 Jesus was offered vinegar to drink.
    MK 15:23 It was wine and myrrh, and he did not drink it.
    JN 19:29-30 Whatever it was, he did drink it.
    (Huh?)

    MT 27:62-66 A guard was placed at the tomb (the day following the burial).
    MK 15:42- 16:8, LK 23:50-56, JN 19:38-42 (No guard is mentioned. This is important since rumor had it that Jesus’ body was stolen and the Resurrection feigned.)
    MK 16:1-3, LK 24:1 (There could not have been a guard, as far as the women were concerned, since they were planning to enter the tomb with spices. Though the women were aware of the stone, they were obviously unaware of a guard.)

    MT 28:1 The first visitors to the tomb were Mary Magdalene and the other Mary (two).
    MK 16:1 Both of the above plus Salome (three).
    LK 23:55 – 24:1, 24:10 Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and “other women” (at least five).
    JN 20:1 Mary Magdalene only (one).
    (God apparently knows “when a sparrow falls” but as for divinely inspired accuracy regarding the number of first visitors, He is not sure.)

    MT 28:1 It was toward dawn when they arrived.
    MK 16:2 It was after sunrise.
    LK 24:1 It was at early dawn.
    JN 20:1 It was still dark.
    (God created the sun, but as for divinely inspired accuracy regarding the position of the sun, he is unsure.)

    MT 28:1-2 The stone was still in place when they arrived. It was rolled away later.
    MK 16:4, LK 24:2, JN 20:1 The stone had already been rolled (or taken) away.

    MT 28:2 An angel arrived during an earthquake, rolled back the stone, then sat on it (outside the tomb).
    MK 16:5 No earthquake, only one young man sitting inside the tomb.
    LK 24:2-4 No earthquake. Two men suddenly appear standing inside the tomb.
    JN 20:12 No earthquake. Two angels are sitting inside the tomb.

    MT 28:8 The visitors ran to tell the disciples.
    MK 16:8 They said nothing to anyone.
    LK 24:9 They told the eleven and all the rest.
    JN 20:10-11 The disciples returned home. Mary remained outside, weeping.

    MT 28:9 On his first appearance to them, Jesus lets Mary Magdalene and the other Mary hold him by his feet.
    JN 20:17 On his first appearance to Mary, Jesus forbids her to touch him since he has not yet ascended to the Father.
    JN 20:27 A week later, although he has not yet ascended to the Father, Jesus tells Thomas to touch him.

    MK 1:2 Jesus quotes a statement that allegedly appears in Isaiah. No such statement appears in Isaiah.

    MK 1:14 Jesus began his ministry after the arrest of John the Baptist.
    JN 3:22-24 Before the arrest of John the Baptist.

    MK 1:23-24 A demon cries out that Jesus is the Holy One of God.
    1JN 4:1-2 Everyone who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God. (Note: This would mean that the demon is of God.)

    MK 3:29 Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin.
    AC 13:39, CN 2:13, 1JN 1:9 All sins are forgivable.

    MK 6:52 The people were so unimpressed with “the Feeding of the Multitude” that they did not even understand the event.
    JN 6:14-15 They were so impressed that they tried to force Jesus to be their king.

    MK 6:53 After the feeding of the 5000, Jesus and the disciples went to Gennesaret.
    JN 6:17-25 They went to Capernaum.

    MK 15:25 It was the third hour when Jesus was crucified.
    JN 19:14-15 It was after the sixth hour since Jesus was still before Pilate and had not yet been sentenced at that time.

    MK 16:1-2 The women came to the tomb to anoint the body.
    JN 19:39-40 The body had already been anointed and wrapped in linen cloth.

    MK 16:5, LK 24:3 The women actually entered the tomb.
    JN 20:1-2, 11 They did not.

    MK 16:14-19 The Ascension took place (presumably from a room) while the disciples were together seated at a table, probably in or near Jerusalem.
    LK 24:50-51 It took place outdoors, after supper, at Bethany (near Jerusalem).
    AC 1:9-12 It took place outdoors, after 40+ days, at Mt. Olivet.
    (Time? Space?)

    LK 1:15 John the Baptist had the Holy Spirit from before his birth or the birth of Jesus.
    LK 1:41 Elizabeth had it long before Jesus went away.
    LK 1:67 So did Zechariah.
    LK 2:25 So did Simeon.
    JN 7:39, JN 16:7, AC 1:3-5 The Holy Spirit cannot come into the world until after Jesus has departed.

    LK 14:26 No one can be a disciple of Jesus unless he hates his parents, wife, children, brothers and sisters.
    1JN 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer.
    1JN 4:20 If anyone claims to love God but hates his brother, he is a liar.

    LK 22:3-23 Satan entered Judas before the supper.
    JN 13:27 It was during the supper.
    (Divine indigestion?)

    LK 23:43 Jesus promises one of those crucified with him that they will be together, that very day, in Paradise.
    JN 20:17, AC 1:3 Jesus was not raised until the third day and did not ascend until at least forty days later.
    (Another miracle!)

    LK 23:55-56 The women followed Joseph to the tomb, saw how the body had been laid, then went to prepare spices with which to anoint the body.
    JN 19:39-40 Joseph brought spices with him (75 or a 100 lbs.) and annointed the body (as the women should have noticed).

    JN 1:1, 10:30 Jesus and God are one.
    JN 14:28 God is greater than Jesus.

    JN 5:24 Believers do not come into judgement.
    MT 12:36, RO 5:18, 2CO 5:10, HE 9:27, 1PE 1:17, JU 1:14-15, RE 20:12-13 All persons (including believers) come into judgement.

    JN 5:31 Jesus says that if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is not true.
    JN 8:14 Jesus says that even if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is true.
    (Redefining truth as contradiction?)

    JN 5:38-47 Men have a choice as to whether or not to receive Jesus.
    JN 6:44 No one can come to Jesus unless he is drawn by the Father.

    JN 7:38 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (i.e., the OT).
    (No such statement is found in the OT.)

    JN 10:27-29 None of Jesus’ followers will be lost.
    1TI 4:1 Some of them will be lost.

    JN 17:12 Mentions a “son of perdition” as appearing in scripture (meaning the OT).
    (Note: There is no “son of perdition” mentioned in the OT.)

    JN 20:9 Jesus quotes a statement that he says appears in scripture (meaning the OT – no such statement is found in the OT.)

    JN 20:22 In his first resurrection appearance before the assembled disciples, Jesus gives them the Holy Spirit.
    AC 1:3-5, AC 2:1-4 The Holy Spirit was received much later (on Pentecost.)

    AC 5:29 Obey God, not men.
    RO 13:1-4, 1PE 2:13-15 Obey the laws of men (i.e., government). It is the will of God.

    AC 9:7 Those present at Paul’s conversion stood.
    AC 26:14 They fell to the ground.
    (Some were standing on others?)

    AC 9:23 The governor attempted to seize Paul.
    2CO 11:32 It was the Jews who tried to seize Paul.

    AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
    RO 9:11-13 God hated Esau and loved Jacob even before their birth.

    AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
    RO 9:18 God has mercy on whoever he chooses, etc.

    AC 16:6 The Holy Spirit forbids preaching in Asia.
    AC 19:8-10 Paul preaches in Asia anyway.

    RO 2:13 Doers of the law will be justified.
    RO 3:20, GA 3:11 They will not be justified.

    RO 10:11 (An alleged OT quote; no such statement in the OT.)

    RO 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything that might cause your brother to stumble or be offended.
    CN 2:16 Let no one pass judgement on you in matters of food and drink.

    1CO 7:8-9 Widows should not marry (although it is better to marry than burn).
    1TI 5:14 Young widows should marry, bear children, rule the household, etc..

    1CO 10:33 Paul says that he tries to please men (so they might be saved).
    GA 1:10 Paul says he would not be a servant of Christ if he tried to please men.

    2CO 12:16 Paul says that he does use trickery.
    1TH 2:3 Paul says that he does not use trickery.

    1TH 2:2 God gave Paul the courage to continue his work.
    1TH 2:17-18 Satan hindered Paul.
    (Who’s in charge, Satan or God?)

    1TI 1:15 Paul says that he is the foremost of sinners.
    1JN 3:8-10 He who commits sin is of the Devil. Children of God do not sin.

    TI 6:20, 2TI 2:14-16, 3:1-7 Do not argue with an unbeliever.
    2JN 1:10-11 Anyone who even greets an unbeliever shares his wicked work.

    “Always be ready to answer any man concerning your faith.” Most importantly answer these for yourself Christian – stop letting others do your thinking for you. Why live for a documented collection of inaccuracies hoping for a “second life?” Why waste this life? Accuracy equals truth, there hundreds of inaccuracies in the bible all clearly spelled out in black and white, nobody invented this criticism; your bible invites it! Open your eyes!

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  3. Joseph said,

    Poor guy. He spent all this time typing this response, trying to eliminate the confusion in his own head? The Bible makes abundantly clear that the truth is hidden from them that are arrogant and high minded. In fact, it specifically says that those that think they are wise are made foolish. Sadly, his write up makes it pretty evident that his goal was not to seek truth but to dispute it.

    These so called “contradictions” are so easily explainable,that it is laughable that he would pick up on such trivialities in an attempt to dispute the authenticity of the Gospels. He has chosen to isolate verses in order to justify his point, as if the preceding and subsequent verses have no bearing on the meaning of the verses he has highlighted. I will give one example and then leave him to his devises.

    His very first argument about Jacob and Heli (Eli) both being listed as the father of Joseph, is fraught with holes. His claim that because Jacob and Heli are both listed as Joseph’s fathers, the Bible is therefore contradictory, smacks of his arrogance. A little more reading would have revealed that: These are both listings of Jesus’ genealogy, neither of which are exhaustive. The writers simply highlighted the names that stood out in their own minds as being relevant to the point they were each trying to make.

    In the genealogy listed in Matthew chapter 1 (of which the writer simply listed one line), only four women are listed; Tamar, Rahab, Bathsheba and Mary. Doesn’t simple common sense tell this writer that it takes more than four women to create a genealogy from Adam to Jesus? In Luke 3 no women are listed at all. Is a genealogy complete without a listing of the women who gave birth to these kids? In attempting to ridicule or expose the so called “contradictions” he has merely exposed his own lack of cognitive reasoning. Enough said!

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